and maureen dowd, and dan, if they had to vote for susan rice and nothing would make a big chunk of the chatting class in the media in president obama's second term to be sort of light critics, some detachment and ironic distance and meanwhile the agenda goes forward and tarnishment will not stop her being the next secretary of state. >> if the press did their job there would be different questions. >> if they did, that's a huge "if." . >> the former head of the ceo david petraeus, his belief that the attacks were carried out and planned as terrorism attacks, and then came his resignation from the cia. the new york times put this piece out, a phony hero for a phony war, lucien trustcot, and then david petraeus in the iraq and afghanistan conflicts, no matter how good he looked in his biographer-mistress's book, it doesn't make up for the fact that we failed to conquer countries we invaded and ended up occupying undefeated nations. >> that's an attack on petraeus and salute from slate magazine, a book coming out called the insurgent, spent a lot of time with patz and questions and proble